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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:40 am    Post subject: OLD CAP COLEMAN PRINTS Reply with quote

Heres a couple of stencil prints from Cap Coleman probley 1930,s if you recognize any design, you can see how many tattooers redrew these tattoos...include coleman, by the 1950,s these designs were super, coleman was a #1 tattooer one of the best for his times, l,ve got these designs also, from his reworks of the 50, 60,s and the difference is great..
Top machine man as well, if you took apart one of his machines, it was like someone throwing confetti at a wedding, peices of paper, brass, wood, shimes, he shimed his machines with anything he picked up, and machines by coleman, ran forever, he could go into a shop and tell you the machine problem from how it sounded..and taught Paul Rogers plenty on machines
Paul told me years ago about that, and that he had tattooed for years before he knew how to put a spring on the right way.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The angry guy in the middle is my favorite.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

awesome stuff,thanks for sharing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coleman style tattooing, man that phrase put alot of meals on Huck and Pauls table. Hell even Stoney as far as that goes, shit even yours and mine too huh. i love that shit....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krookedken wrote:
Coleman style tattooing, man that phrase put alot of meals on Huck and Pauls table. Hell even Stoney as far as that goes, shit even yours and mine too huh. i love that shit....

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIGHT ON, cap coleman..sad that you seldom hear his name..he was the man ... who did it all..
Thanks Jed..you know anyway....your background shows that..
And lm pleased to have just about everything Cap ever drew..just about.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krookedken wrote:
Coleman style tattooing, man that phrase put alot of meals on Huck and Pauls table. Hell even Stoney as far as that goes, shit even yours and mine too huh. i love that shit....

Thats a fact man,, and ld love to do some coleman stuff on you!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coleman was the original and its sad that he is just about forgotten about (not by me) l quess there is no money to be made off his name..but l remember the man...and what he did for us all..
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shit i got "CAP COLEMAN STYLE" tattooed on my wrist years back. Above the hand i tattoo with. Keeps my priorities straight if you know what i mean. Im with you Jerry, he sure had the simplicity and longevity thing down and thats where i picked up the heavy black shading influence.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he was the classic on that shadeing, Huck Paul and Me took it and just about mastered it for years, l got a 40 yr old tattoo done by huck the coleman way, and you can still tell what it is from across the street..
(ps lm tryin to get hold of you KEN)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, so that's how you guys did it before you had photocopiers. What'd you do if you had to enlarge it? Actually DRAW it larger? Whoa... who ever heard of that? laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep no photo copiers,, and not even to draw it larger just to redraw you just looked and looked and did your own thing a few times till you got what you wanted..haha..lt would be a mortel sin to trace over a stencil print..
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

having dinner at Bev's place on Tuesday Night ,
She says she wants to catch up on all the gossip.
I cant wait to tell her about you guys.
jerry did you Know she was recently inducted to the tattoo hall of fame
a bit south of you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no,, l did not know Bev wan in the tattoo hall of fame,,great, when you see her give her a big hug mate, for me..
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

right after I give her one for me ha ha
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got a guy i tattoo from toronto. gets traditional werk.
he's an oil painter nothing to do with tattooing. he
got his first tattoo because he admired cap colemans paintings.
cap coleman is like a kieth herring or picasso to this guy.
just some painter he admires.

it stoked me to hear this sort of a thing.

cap coleman is the lord.

and i am a servant.

saint 'motherfuckin' cap coleman.

basically i got a custumer from the guy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Keep the stories coming Reply with quote

I love the stories from the old days - how it used to be.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was a whole lot different then it is now,,,,but, there are a few places around who stil keep the old school going, and lm on my way there next month to have a blast laughing tatgun
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

had an email from a guy, had an eagle done in the late 70, asked if l knew who,s egale it was, and lt was an old cap coleman style eagle from a spaulding sheet, so l told him, he wrote back and said cap coleman, who is he never heard of him..shame...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The history of the old tattooing needs to be documented. I have seen many books of old timers with pictures, but stories are missing.

Is there a book on the market - or in the works - to have that gives the glimpse of the past? How it used to be and the players back in the day?

A book titled "A day in the life of a 1920's, 30's, 40's......70's tattoo artist." as an idea.

I do not want to see the history lost in the youth. I WANT to learn it ALL for myself. Tell me Jerry, how can one help keep the history alive?

When I was in Alaska - my first winter I was a skinner for the largest furbuyer in the industry. Dean Wilson. The old timers that came into his shop had so much in their head and through those stories of the natives the history was passed along, however, some of the youth stopped listening to the old timers and this is when stories get lost.

Reverence to the ancestors! Without them I would not be here typing this to you. You are a gift to this industry - please let the stories flow.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff Jerry!Thanks for passing it on.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuck Eldridge has some nice info and pics on coleman, l think this may get you there,,,lots of old stuff he has to sell, re-prints but nice
http://www.tattooarchive.com/history/coleman_august_cap.htm
l had the pleasure of working with chuck in the 70,s, very nice person.,.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amyx wrote:
The history of the old tattooing needs to be documented. I have seen many books of old timers with pictures, but stories are missing.

Is there a book on the market - or in the works - to have that gives the glimpse of the past? How it used to be and the players back in the day?

A book titled "A day in the life of a 1920's, 30's, 40's......70's tattoo artist." as an idea.

I do not want to see the history lost in the youth. I WANT to learn it ALL for myself. Tell me Jerry, how can one help keep the history alive?

When I was in Alaska - my first winter I was a skinner for the largest furbuyer in the industry. Dean Wilson. The old timers that came into his shop had so much in their head and through those stories of the natives the history was passed along, however, some of the youth stopped listening to the old timers and this is when stories get lost.

Reverence to the ancestors! Without them I would not be here typing this to you. You are a gift to this industry - please let the stories flow.

You are so right, when people stop listening to the elders, history is lost, so many times people wanted me to do interviews for a tattoo book, and l did a few but always ended up getting ripped off somehow, so l am a bit weary on most now, but l get calls and letters all the time regards the old days and ways..not that l invented anything, but l did actually come up with a few things being used now..but l listened to the old guys when l was a kid, should have listened more..
l tried to write myself but spelling and memory is frigged, one needs someone to ask and tape the story, l cant write all that stuff, as when you get started, you tell something, and right in the middle of it, another story pops up, its never ending, the last book thing that was tried on me was like over 800 pages, and still was not all in there...Gee ya cant lose this history,, l think we are going too..but l hope not. l am very happy to share, and pleased people are still interested..
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I am looking forward to meeting you, will you be tattooing on your visit?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the old quote ..."how can you Know where you are going,if you you dont know where you came from"
the old guys work was simple and quick , get it on and get em out.
I can remember Saturday mornings, standing in a line on Flinders Street, Melbourne, that extended to the top of a flight of stairs beside the Waterside hotel , leading to the dingy room where old Dicky Reynolds tattooedand waiting impatiently for the old guy to open his door.
Once inside the atmophere was like a step back in time, Dick would be
presiding from the corner"which one would you like today son?"

Aa a guy would go to set foot in the room with a couple of girls he would say "sorry mate, women aren"t allowed in here". As they back peddled out the door, a charcoal covered acetate stencil was applied, his machine
would get waved over metholated spirit fueled flame, just licking the tip of
his needles, then before you new it a piece of toilet tissue had been sticky taped to a hoodlams arm and it was "ok who"s next to the line up of punters waiting on the wooden bench against the wall, always some body ready to grab the next spot as everyone slide down the pew
I wish my memory wasn't so burnt and I could recall more details of the
of the time, but as they say if you can remember the 70"s you weren't really there. ha ha
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